Copying Web Site

[Bryan]

On a couple of other forums I am on, they delete threads that paste information from other sites, say BBC.co.uk and replace it with a link as the pasted information is copyright.

Should we be doing the same on this forum?

Rgs

Bryan

:confused:

[Alan T]

I've often wondered about that Bryan.
Every time I see stuff copied from BBC, Travelmole etc, I wonder if Owen is liable to copyright laws.
Must admit I have been as guilty as anyone in the distant past!

[seaward]

this should answer your question.

If you are copying and pasting information within a post from another source, please quote the source - either by copying and pasting the URL of the page the information is taken from, or by clearly stating the sourc of the information.

In order for the forum to protect itself against prosecution, any information not quoting the source will be moderated and may be edited or deleted.

For example, if I wanted to qualify a point I was posting something about, say, the treatment of Jaundice in infants I would do the following :

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Jaundice in infants is treated nowadays by phototherapy Quote:
Since the early 1970s, jaundice has been treated with phototherapy (http://www.babycentre.co.uk/glossary/P.html#phototherapy)http://images.babycenter.com/images/...y.Asterisk.gif (http://images.babycenter.com/images/Glossary.Asterisk.gif), a process in which infants are exposed to fluorescent-type lights which break down excess bilirubin so it can be excreted through the baby's liver.
Source : http://www.babycentre.co.uk/refcap/89.html#3

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I made the point, quoted the text and linked to the source.

To make some sort of reference to the source of your information covers the forum under EU Copyright Laws and as also polite to the person who published the original material in the first place.

EU Copyright Law (Which covers both Spain and the UK) actually states that before any copyrighted material is reproduced, you must first seek the approval of the author... however it is widely accepted on the internet that this is not always possible, so a link to the source will surfice, or at least a reference to the source, such as : this information was taken from the Babycentre.co.uk website. It's often quicker and more specific to just copy and paste the URL though, than to type out the website address manually.


If you would like it explained in more layman's terms, you can get an overview of the Spanish laws (in English) HERE (http://www.euro-copyrights.org/index/11/30) - however you can also click through to other countries on the site too.

[mary]

so when we say - saw this on so and so website and then post link we are acknowledging others work and not saying its ours???

[seaward]

yes:thumb:

[mary]

so, as long as we do that we are ok then

[Bryan]

Hi

As I understand it, you can post the link, no problem, but you cannot also post the text/picture that go with it.

Rgs

Bryan
:thumb:

[seaward]

yes you can so long as you always enter the link/supplier of the original material at the end of your post:thumb:

[Owen]

Unless the author has a copyright logo on the images and states they are not to be copied and posted on a public web site - same as DVDs and other media - though I have seen plenty of my photos elsewhere with the copyright cropped off :(

[Alan T]

This is copied from the BBC terms and conditions :

Use of bbc.co.uk


You may not copy, reproduce, republish, download, post, broadcast, transmit, make available to the public, or otherwise use bbc.co.uk content in any way except for your own personal, non-commercial use. You also agree not to adapt, alter or create a derivative work from any bbc.co.uk content except for your own personal, non-commercial use. Any other use of bbc.co.uk content requires the prior written permission of the BBC.Not sure how it affects this site though!
This is a commercial site.
And no mention that its ok to copy if a link is posted.
hmm... food for thought.

[rab_c.]

a very good thread this is turning out to be.
I will use the world cup as an example here and having read up on bbc. rules and regulations.
bluemoonsteve has been using a lot of bbc material in keeping us all informed on up to date news on the world cup in a personal non commercial way which i would think is classed as informative and non profitable to him.at the same time he is advertising the bbc so good luck to him and well done for keeping us all up to date with the events as they happen.
on the other point i would think that canary forum.com is an informative site non commercial on peoples findings on gran canaria. yes owen also has his excellent services posted on the forum but only on an informative manner as the commercial business side side opens in a new page islas canarias etc therefore keeping the forum informative.we all post on our own findings of hotels restaraunts etc and as we make no money from it therefore it is non commercial informative material.
if i am wrong then millions of us are acting illegally and open to having court proceedings being taken against us.
rab_c.

[HandyMan]

Totally agree Rab....there is No commercial gain by using quotes on this site , so should be no issues.....everybody keep up the good work:thankyou:

[Stephen]

Cheers Rab , and Handy man , yep i have been using the BBC a lot and have been for a few years where do you think the predictions forthcoming matches and results came from :):) i will admit that i did not bother with thelink SO from this moment to keep the satus quo and save people complaining i will use the link on everyone i do and hopefully COL will do the same on his from Travelmole etc

[huggybear]

BBC along with most web sites rules state that you can only copy, make available their info to the public etc with their permission.

So anyone copying etc without their permission is acting illegally.

Hope you all have a nice time in jail but you should be ok as internet access is readily available in prison

[Owen]

The BBC have actually contacted me twice to ask for input into stories they were running and link to me from their website.

I'm pretty sure any web site / company (microsoft being a good example as one of the biggest in the world) would contact anyone first they thought infringing on their rights rather than try and have them put in jail.

Either way, I'm not bothered at the moment though yes, it would be nice if we could make sure if we link to a source if quoting from it.

[richt71]

I'm a mod on a few other websites and ahve been contacted by a couple of copyright infringement companies that act on behalf of major websites. As afr as I understand they don't have a problem with someone posting an article as long as it has a link to it but if you use their articles/online contents to profit or use there content to promote your site without a link then you're on dangerous ground.
Also it's complicated as information is never copyrighted..but a whole article can be!